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General Battleground: Fantasy Warfare Discussion / Re: Faction Re-release Ideas
« Last post by Fingolfin on March 16, 2018, 12:31:08 PM »
We'll I would not take the Cygnets, even if they had spears....High Elf Spearman are rockin' good.  6/7 3/2 when charged against cavalry/large is awesome.  If you mean they are garbage because they are a bit overpriced, I could understand that.

What I mean is that they are bad at the spear role. Spears are supposed to be cheaper than the cavalry and monsters that they are fighting, but High Elf Spearmen are often more expensive. Not to mention that a 6/6/5 profile is pretty bad against monsters.

What would the bowriders be if they had a 3/1 defense and you made them "no move and shoot"?   I would pay 300+ for that, especially with manuever mastery....

I don't know, but I would wager that they would cost too much to effective at the Flank and Harass role that they currently fulfill.

Oh yes, I have some comments on the Dark Elves....and I do like some of your ideas...some not...

I look forward to it.

See, I love HE Knights.  Ask Brook, most of my games with High Elves feature Knights.  They are just so brutal for what you pay for them.  5"  doesn't bug me one bit.  They bring the beatdown on the charge and they are just so hard to mark on that initial turn.

I agree that Chariots seem to be a weird fit but they are such a cool unit.

I try to fit Spears into some builds, but it's so hard to justify when I can just spend 18 points and upgrade to Elder Blade Swordsmen.

I love the Knights too, but so much of their design doesn't make sense to me. They are brutal on the Charge, but after that, against anything with decent toughness, they fall off.

Session Reports / Re: Championship Finals Game: my Wuxing vs. Brook's Ravenwood
« Last post by RushAss on March 14, 2018, 03:03:48 PM »
Well yeah, I stand corrected because I totally left out the Repair Technicians when making that determination.
I took Stone Monkeys in round 1, Ogres in round 3, and a Healer Mage in the finals.  Ron took an Earth Elemental vs. me in Round 4.
Session Reports / Re: Championship Finals Game: my Wuxing vs. Brook's Ravenwood
« Last post by Kevin on March 14, 2018, 02:17:35 PM »
Even if the Jade Nobles held, Ravenwood would have eventually owned the flanks and it would have been a dog fight at that point.

Minor correction here.  I was confident that I'd win the right flank.  My Terracotta Spearmen (236) who were getting their first 2 damage healed were heavily favored to wipe out the Ravenwood Swordsmen (207) and pinch the Bear Pack before the Bear Pack gets through the Salvaged chump stack.  (Indeed, in the game the Ravenwood unit routed while the Terracotta unit was still in the green.)  The only question is what happens in the left-center (Bear Pack vs. Terracotta Spearmen and Bearkin vs. Terracotta Swordsmen.  Probably the median outcome is that the Bear Pack prevails (the Treant is coming in to pinch, if nothing else), as do the Terracotta Swordsmen (who may receive aid from Jade Nobles, as well as two boxes healed).  If that happens, it's a pristine Treant and a wounded (and uncontrolled) Bear Pack vs. 5 banged-up Wuxing Units (Swordsmen, 2 Jade Nobles, Spearmen, Salvaged) and a Healer Mage Repair Technician gradually fixing them up.  Bloody, but I like those odds.

But there definitely was a chance, probably 25% - 40%, that something would go horribly wrong somewhere on the line, and we saw that here.  Ouch!
Session Reports / Re: Championship Finals Game: my Wuxing vs. Brook's Ravenwood
« Last post by RushAss on March 14, 2018, 12:13:38 PM »
Those Bearkin units manned up for sure!  I remember Kevin remarking early in the game that he felt OK not using Aura Cleanse on the Jade Nobles and I don't blame him.  Boy was he upset about it at the end of the game.  What Kevin did here is a textbook example of delaying the bad engagements while accelerating the good ones.  It just didn't work out as the Bearkin caught fire and Brook took the match ups he was given.  Even if the Jade Nobles held, Ravenwood would have eventually owned the flanks and it would have been a dog fight at that point.  Or in this case, a bear fight.  Well played by both of you and congratulations to Brook!
A lot of meaty units sweating it out on the field.  Jaime did well to delay his bad engagements and it served him well.

What I found interesting is that I allowed full mercenary access, but we didn't see a whole lot of them.  I used an Earth Elemental in one game and Manny used a Hydra in his game against me.  Kevin used Ogres once or twice, Jaime used the Healers in this game, and that was it.  Passing strange.
Look at those healer mages!  It was almost like I was there.  The Dwarves should've had a Hydra though....."The Dwarves dug too deep!!"
Thanks, Brook!  Btw I think you meant to post your comment on the other thread...?

You are right.  Post re-located. :)
Session Reports / Re: Championship Finals Game: my Wuxing vs. Brook's Ravenwood
« Last post by gornhorror on March 13, 2018, 10:26:10 AM »
Always a pleasure playing against you Kevin.   Yeah, I knew that I wasn't going to get anywhere going archery heavy against Wuxing, so I decided to bring the beef.   I even said to myself before the match, "if he plays nobles at least the bearskin have a chance to do some damage" and as an added bonus, Spirit Guidance could be used!!!!!

I didn't expect my bearskin to out right win the matchup, with their courage and damaging on twos I thought they would be respectable.  My dice were good on the "too damage" roll.  Kevin's dice weren't that good over all. 

I had a fun time playing and was glad to hear that Ravenwood never won a tourney and that the bad streak had ended.  Ravenwood is my favorite faction(as most of you know I like the elf factions, except for Dark Elves.) and that made the win extra special.

Also, it was good to prove Jaime wrong when he was bustin' my chops saying that Ravenwood as a faction was always a bridesmaid, never a bride,  before the match......:)  It's all in good fun....
2000 points, Total Warfare.

Set Up

Alexander, background to foreground:  Thracian Peltasts, Foot Companions, Allied Hoplites, Foot Companions, Foot Companions, Healer Mages behind Allied Hoplites, Agema, Iphicratean Spearmen.

A good army.  Grindy infantry, fast guys near the terrain, and Healer Mages + a skirmisher to keep the Longbeards from breaking through too quickly.

Dwarves, background to foreground:  Spearmen, Speearmen, Spearmen, Spearmen, Longbeards, Spearmen, Axemen.  Blakely looks like she's ready to out-grind the phalanxes here! 

Exciting live action photo!  :)


In the foregound, Jaime takes advantage of his units' superior speed to avoid engaging the heavier Dwarf units.  This gave him a modest point advantage on the rest of the battlefield. 

In the background, it looks like a Dwarf Spearmen unit has routed!  This lead to an early pinch.  Jaime's dice were a lot hotter than Blakely's, and when I glanced at this game later on nearly ever Dwarf line unit in the background and middle was close to wrecked.  Eventually Blakely raised the white flag.

Good Games, Everyone!

Sunday was a bit of a disappointment for Blakely's Dwarves after she'd grabbed the #2 slot with a 3-1 Saturday record, but them's the breaks. I feel that this game was pretty close to a 50/50 and that means half the time you're going to lose.  But overall a very well-played weekend!
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